When I retired, I retired my cell phone too. I'm appalled at everyone staring into their rectangles every time it dings.

 

I'm not being clever at all.
In fact if there is one particular field I am really really unclever with , it is electronics and I T technology.

I just want the world to be a bit safer where possible and to hell with modern privacy phobia.

It is an illusion anyway as your examples point out.
At best we are only protected from good guy snoops ,
certainly not from smart crimes, insider activity and all that array of crims .

 

I want the world to be safer and Apple is doing its part.

I like Franklin's take on this, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

I work in related fields, I have read Apple's argument, and I agree with Apple 100%.

At the very least the FBI is being disingenuous, its a simple task to image the flash, then you can work on it without the safeguards requested to be bypassed. They want a tool to break into any iPhone at any time.

 

I completely disagree. The government will use what ever excuse they can in order to violate the privacy of every last person in america. The government has a very good track record of corruption and abuse and i will guarantee this will be no exception. Even if they can prowl through everyone's phones that doesn't mean they will stop any terrorist, but you can bet your ass local pigs will have a field day with the information. I would rather take my chances with a couple so-called terrorists than give the government anything.

 

Welcome back RK, I've never advanced beyond a flip phone, no need.

 

If they comply without absolute force one group says they are spying, if the refuse to comply the group will say that they are enabling the terrorists. Its a form of dual death either way.

 

I believe the government is the last group of people I would trust with any private information. At the same time I believe Apple is only concerned with money and how this affects their bottom line.

 

If a back door became reality wouldn't people develop apps that would put a lock on the door?

 

It's called ''GOVERNMENT''.

 

Neither had past ties so nothing would have shown up. Did you expect full life time surveillance? That would be illegal.

 

John McAfee Offers To Hack Terrorist's iPhone For FBI

"So here is my offer to the FBI. I will, free of charge, decrypt the information on the San Bernardino phone, with my team. We will primarily use social engineering, and it will take us three weeks," McAfee wrote. "If you accept my offer, then you will not need to ask Apple to place a back door in its product, which will be the beginning of the end of America."

He said this solution would solve the FBI's immediate problem with the cell phone and eliminate the concerns of privacy critics who fear the back door technology could be misused.

 

This is the last guy that I would let tinker with my security, I knew John way back in the 70's he almost became a close relative, he is the least trustworthy person that I know.

 

The only thing George Orwell got wrong was the year.....

 

When I heard that Google and Twitter agreed with Apple on this issue I supported them in their fight against Big Brother!





But now that I've heard that Facebook also agrees with Apple on this issue I hope that the government raids them with guns blasting.

 

Because, apparently, the demand from the chattering classes for safety from the current bogeyman, whoever the hell it is, overrides the right to be free from arbitrary search and seizure by the organs of the State. I've never understood the failure of people to understand Mr. Franklin's words, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

 

I love that quote, thanks.

I've recently heard something quite similar, and I'm not sure who said it because I can only paraphrase: "He who sacrifices liberty for sake of security inevitably ends up with neither."

 

I just wonder what so many people have to hide ,
that their paranoier,
leaves them preferring to live with the perminant knowledge that any day ,
their kids may be slaughtered in school , their parents in church , their spouse's and family at community center , or anywhere else ,
rather than allow authorities to take reasonable steps to try to stop it happening.

Are they all kiddie fiddler child abusing , drug smuggler , rapist murderers ?

Have you all collectively failed so dismally to elect good trustworthy politicians and leaders for so many years /decades.

One thing you can not escape ,
is that you all collectively are responsible for the elected government and authorities you have.

If they are SO bad what have you done about it ?
and WHAT are you doing about it now ?

This is the time for YOU to do your duty , to protect your family and your community and your society .

Have you all failed so badly ?
for so long ?

or are you just a bunch of misfit junkie curb crawling yobbo dimwits ?

 

"Good trustworthy politicians and leaders"?

Politicians by definition are lying incompetent dictatorial scumbags who couldn't last 5 whole minutes doing a real job in the private sector.

 

"I don't care. I have nothing to hide."

The famous last words of every fool who stands against a wall wearing a blindfold.

 

Actually...

I believe your guys

have cornered the market

on those behaviors

...if I'm not mistaken.